[Tlhingan-hol] Conversational klingon and the use of {nuq}

[mayqel qunenoS]

toH !

'op ben, 'Internetvo' klingonska De' naQ vIlI'ta'. klingonska tamey
vIlI'ta'DI', vIpongta'.

tameyvetlh vIpongmeH, wa'DIch Degh A vIlo'ta' ej tagha' Degh Z vIlo'ta.

'a ngugh, taghwI' jIHmo', tamey vIlaDchoHbe'.

DaH - qen - tameyvam vIlaDchoH.

'ej - De'vID -, jIHvaD mu'ghom ghom Dacha'bogh vIghaj ! DaHjaj 'e' vItlhoj.

'a unknown title 4 vIpongmo', wej vIlaD !

DaH, Degh C ghajbogh tammey'e' vIlaDtaH..

after all those useless, but highly instructive, - for me - sentences,
here is my realization..

both {nuq mI'lIj} and {nuq 'oH mIlIj'e'} are correct. however I prefer
the second version.

whyyyy ?

meqvam napmo' :
because of this simple reason :

tlhIngan Hol mu'tlhegh vIleghDI' jIQuchchoH ! 'a tlhIngan Hol
mu'tlhegh tIq vIleghDI' jIQuchqu'choH !
the longer a klingon sentence is, the happier I get !

(that sounded dirty in FSE ; anyway..)

qunnoq HoD
by teaching me, you created a monster !

On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 3:44 PM, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Am 29.05.2016 um 13:19 schrieb mayqel qunenoS:
>>>
>>> <What is your number, Terran?> {nuq mI'lIj, tera'ngan.}
>>> <What is this place?> {Daqvam nuq.}
>>> <What is this?> {Dochvam nuq.}
>
> Quvar:
>> I'm not sure where I got that from, but I seem to remember that in this
>> case, {nuq} works here just like pronouns do: {SoH} can be "you" but also
>> "you are". So nuq mean "what (is)".
>
> http://klingonska.org/canon/1996-12-12b-news.txt
> <Question words (in this case, nuq "what?") function the same way pronouns
> do in questions with "to be" in the English translations. Thus, the question
> yIH nuq? "What is a tribble?" is exactly parallel the statement yIH 'oH "It
> is a tribble" (where yIH is "tribble" and 'oH is "it").>
>
> Quvar:
>> {Daqvam nuq.} = "what (is) this place?"
>> {Dochvam nuq.} = "what (is) this thing"
>>
>> Just like in {tera'ngan ghaH} = "He (is) a terran"
>>
>> Well, now following that logic, then it should be {mI'lIj nuq}, but then
>> maybe there is a rule it can be reversed?
>
> I think this is clipped for {nuq 'oH mI'lIj'e'}, rather than a reversal of
> {mI'lIj nuq}. They are basically two different ways to ask the same
> question.
>
> --
> De'vID
>
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