[Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: Sang

mayql qunenoS mihkoun at gmail.com
Sat Mar 26 03:53:13 PDT 2016


So van then it is.. thank you Ca'non master !

On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 10:07 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer at uchicago.edu> wrote:
> mayql qunenoS wrote:
>
>>> While I was writing the original sentence (and several times in the past
>>> too..), I came across the need to express the "we ended the war".
>>> I read carefully the information on the verbs of ending, and I noticed
>>> that there is not a specific reference to "ending a war". From what I
>>> read, I assume that the most appropriate verb, for this purpose seems to
>>> be {van}.  Would you consider this to be correct assumption?
>
> To review, the three verbs are:
>
> van             end (an event)             - i.e. transitive (takes an object)
> ghang   end (an event) prematurely - i.e. transitive (takes an object)
> Dor             end                        - i.e. intransitive (doesn't take an object)
>
> (HQ 12.2:8-9):  When an event over which one has some control ends (one can't cause a month to end), a different verb is used: {van}. This would apply to such things as voyages, battles, plays, operas, stories, and songs. Here, the event (the voyage, the song) doesn't end; the participant in the event or the perpetrator of the event ends it. [...]
>
> Okrand specifically mentions using {van} for battles.  What is a war except a series of battles or a battle writ large?  E.g.
>
>   noH vanta' DIvI' rojwI'.
>   The Federation peacemaker managed to end the war.
>
> (HQ 12.2:8:  Another verb, {ghang}, is used to express the idea of a premature ending. If, using the same examples, the voyage is cut short or the song is interrupted before the final part is sung, one would say... Note that the voyage and the song cannot end themselves.
>
> You might use [ghang} for prematurely ending a war if forced to do so by an outside force, say the U.N. Security Counsel.  In the Star Trek episode "Errand of Mercy" the Organians stopped a war between the Federation and the Empire just minutes after it had started - to the vociferous objections of both parties (well, at least Capt. Kirk and Cdr. Kor).  E.g.
>
>   pay' noH lughangpu' 'orghengan quppu'.
>   The Organian elders stopped the war abruptly.
>
>
> --
> Voragh
> tlhIngan ghantoH pIn'a'
> Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
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