[Tlhingan-hol] Between us curses run like water

mayql qunenoS mihkoun at gmail.com
Wed Mar 9 07:33:28 PST 2016


De'vID:
> I take it that it means the speaker and listener are on
> such good terms that the curses run freely between them.
Ca'non master:
> Cursing, or swearing, is considered a fine art among Klingons.

I agree with your analysis De'vID. Especially if we take into account
the passage from TKW, which voragh quoted, I believe too that this
vIttlhegh is used to express familiarity and/or admiration between the
people involved.

mayqel mIv Hurgh qunnoq

On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 4:10 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer at uchicago.edu> wrote:
>> mayql qunenoS:
>> > b. since the ability to curse well, is considered a positive klingon
>> > attribute, perhaps this phrase actually praises the personalities of
>> > both holiday participants, describing their capability of cursing
>> > well, effectively, constantly etc.
>
> De'vID:
>> Let's look at what the Klingon actually says.
>>
>> {matay'DI' vIHtaHbogh bIQ rur mu'qaDmey}
>> When we are together, curses resemble continuously moving water.
>>
>> I take it that it means the speaker and listener are on such good terms
>> that the curses run freely between them. Remember that curse warfare is a
>> sport and curses are technically challenge words. In Klingon culture,
>> curses run freely between friends.
>
> TKW 148:  Cursing, or swearing, is considered a fine art among Klingons. One who curses well is the recipient of a great deal of respect; one who does not curse well may not be worthy enough to be called Klingon. Thus it was a compliment when Gov. Vagh said, "You swear well, Picard. You must have Klingon blood in your veins." (cf. TNG "The Mind's Eye")
>
> taghbej mu'qaD veS
> Curse-warfare has definitely begun. PK
>
>
> --
> Voragh
> tlhIngan ghantoH pIn'a'
> Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
>
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