[Tlhingan-hol] voragh vIvan & {A, B je neH} lo' (was: RE: Why Klingon is perfect)

qov at kli.org qov at kli.org
Sat Jan 23 11:20:56 PST 2016


voragh, qavan vIneH je jIH.  qunnoq HoDvaD qech vIQIjmeH yabwIjDaq
chovnatlhmey vInej 'ach {ghojmeH taj}, {ghojmeH ghItlhwI'} je neH
vIqawlaH(*). pov tetlhlIj. vIleghDI' jIlop. laDDI' qunnoq, ghaytan qech yaj,
vIQIjnISpa'.

* {neH} nungbogh {je}vetlh bolaj'a', jatlhwI'pu'? jIjatlhtaHvIS vIlo'DI'
tu'law' pagh, 'ach HaStaDaq muyevmoH.

- Qov

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mayql qunenoS [mailto:mihkoun at gmail.com]
> Sent: January 23, 2016 7:13
> To: tlhingan-hol at kli.org
> Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Why Klingon is perfect
> 
> Ca'non master :
> > Until then, here are some known examples..
> 
> jIHvaD ghantoHmeyvam Da'angmo', qavan Ca'non pIn'a'.
> because you revealed these examples for me, I hail you Ca'non master.
> 
> vIHaD 'ej tugh {-meH} latlh lo'vam wIja'chuq.
> I will study them and soon we will discuss this additional use of {-meH}.
> 
> De'vID :
> > naDev lughbe' {wuv}. tlhoy vay' boQlu', latlh wuv.
> 
> maj De'vID ! jImoDmo', {wuv} QIjchu'ghach vItu'be'.
> thank you De'vID ! because I hurried, I didn't observe {wuv}'s exact
> explanation.
> 
> cpt qunnoq
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 8:28 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer at uchicago.edu>
> wrote:
> > Qov :
> >>> There is one use of {-meH} that isn't completely covered in TKD.  As
> >>> well as marking an entire clause that precedes the main clause and
> >>> states the purpose of the main clause, a verb with {-meH} can mark
> >>> just a noun, and give the purpose of that noun.
> >
> > Cpt qunnoq:
> >> vIparHa' ! vIparHa'qu' !
> >> I like this ! I like this a lot !
> >>
> >> yabwIjDaq {-'e'} mollu'DI' wIja'chuqnISbej..
> >> as soon as the {-'e'} sinks in my mind, we definitely need to discuss
> >> this..[]
> >
> > Until then, here are some known examples - a few used in sentences - of
> what some call "{-meH}ed nouns" to ponder...
> >
> > QongmeH Duj
> > sleeper ship
> >
> >   tera' vatlh DIS poH cha'maH loS bong QongmeH qItI'nga' Duj tI'ang
> ghompu' DIvI' 'ejDo' 'entepray'
> >   A sleeper ship of this [K'Tinga] class, the T'Ong, was encountered
> > in the 24th century by the USS Enterprise. S15
> >
> > ngongmeH Duj
> > [experimental ship, prototype vessel] S33
> >
> >   ngongmeH wa' DujDaq nuHmey nISbe'bogh So'wI' jomlu'pu'
> >   [A cloaking device which didn't disrupt weaponry was installed in
> > one experimental ship. (untr.)] S33
> >
> > qa'meH vIttlhegh replacement proverb
> >
> > HQ 5.1:  This is the only way to say "replacement proverb" currently,
but in
> the past, the common term was the lengthier {quvqa'meH vIttlhegh},
> literally, "proverb for (the purpose of) being honored again". The word
> {qa'meH}, clearly a shortened form of {quvqa'meH}, was originally used
only
> in the construction of {qa'meH vIttlhegh}, but, though historically two
verb
> suffixes, it has become accepted as a noun in its own right, meaning
> replacement in the sense of something that takes over for or is used
instead
> of something that is gone or that has been lost.
> >
> > chenmoHlu'meH Daq
> > construction site KBoP
> >
> >   tlhIngan juHqo'Daq tlhIng yoSDaq 'oH toQDuj chenmoHlu'meH Daq
> wa'DIch'e'
> >   1st Construction Site: The Kling District, Klingon Home World. KBoP
> >
> > Qapchu'meH 'aqroS chuq
> > Maximum Effective Range KBOP
> >
> > jIpaSqu'mo' narghpu' qaSuchmeH 'eb
> > I was too late to visit you. (st.k 1/98)
> >
> > nom yer mechmeH Quj
> > "game for fast trading of property" (untr.)] MKE
> >
> > polmeH jav QujwI' lIwmey
> > 6 collectible tokens (MKE)
> >
> > bachlu'meH chuqna'
> > effective range S14
> >
> > HoS QaymeH 'och
> > power transfer conduit KBoP
> >
> > SopmeH pa'
> > dining room, eating room
> >
> > HoS QaymeH 'och
> > power transfer conduit KBOP
> >
> > Soj polmeH pa'
> > food storage KBOP
> >
> > pe'meH taj
> > cutting knife KGT
> >
> > DevmeH paq
> > guide, guidebook TKW
> >
> > vutmeH 'un
> > flat-bottomed pot for food preparation KGT
> >
> > 'elmeH chaw'mey je'lu'ta'bogh
> > will-call tickets (WSC)
> >
> > HIjmeH chaw'
> > stamp TNK
> >
> > je'meH lengmey
> > Shopping (TNK: "Category Title")
> >
> > ghojmeH ghItlhwI'
> > pencil (TNK)
> >
> > ghojmeH taj
> > a boy's knife (knife for learning) KCD
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Voragh
> > Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
> >
> >
> >
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