[Tlhingan-hol] KLBC: Beginner's One-Sentence Story Game

mayql qunenoS mihkoun at gmail.com
Wed Feb 24 10:17:08 PST 2016


QISta':
>>bergh HoD 'ej jach: «yItamchoH! 'ach romuluSnganDaq
> SoH qangeH!» Oops! I meant to say {pagh}, for "or I'll send
> you to the Romulans". Not sure if that's correct either... :-(

Recently, Qov had pointed out to me (thank you Qov !) that the klingon
word {pagh} (conj) <or, either/or>, cannot be used in klingon, in the
same way that we would say in english <surrender or die>.

The formula in klingon is {...-chugh vaj ...} <if you do/don't
(whatever) then (consequences)>. So, in your example the correct way
to put it would be :

<if you don't become quite then I will send you to the romulans>.
{yItamchoHbe'chugh vaj romuluSnganpu'Daq qangeH !}.

Notice 2 things :

1. By using the <if you don't, then I will> formula, the sentence
acquires a more "active" feeling that just saying <become quite or I
will send you to the romulans>. and this good, because klingon is a
verb-centric and therefore an "active" language.
2. I chose to omit the {SoH}, since it is already expressed by the use
of the prefix {qa-}.

But before you do adopt any of these comments, please check with
someone else too, because I'm also a beginner and in case I'm
mistaken, I wouldn't want to confuse you..

Anyway the last sentence in the game is :

jIHDaq HIghoS ; cha' 'avwI'pu'vaD jatlh HoD.. be'vam yIbagh 'ej
romulSngan may'DujDaq yIQol.

mIv Hurgh qunnoq
i worked up a headache trying to write the Sylvester mail.

On Wed, Feb 24, 2016 at 7:47 PM, chransberry at gmail.com
<chransberry at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>bergh HoD 'ej jach: «yItamchoH! 'ach romuluSnganDaq SoH qangeH!»
>
> Oops! I meant to say {pagh}, for "or I'll send you to the Romulans". Not
> sure if that's correct either... :-(
>
>>I think that it would be better if the sentence was written {berghchoH HoD}
>
> Hmm... probably; I mean, the captain was already angry, so probably also
> irritable, but as the woman's response triggered further irritation, {-choH}
> might be better...
>
> Sorry I don't have a new sentence just at present.
>
> -QISta'
>
>
> -----Original message-----
>
> From: mayql qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com>
> To: tlhIngan Hol mailing list <tlhingan-hol at kli.org>
> Sent: Wed, Feb 24, 2016 10:18:11 GMT+00:00
> Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] KLBC: Beginner's One-Sentence Story Game
>
> jIH:
>> ghIq Qub HoD 'ej beqvam jatlh : lugh be'vam ! romuluSnganDaq yIH
>> bongeH 'a yIHDaq wa' 'otlh peng borar !
> 'arHa':
>> (I think you mean {tI-} for ngeH and rar, qar'a'? And {beqvamvaD} or
>> {beqvaD}?)
>
> Yes 'arHa' you're correct on both accounts. I forgot to place the
> {-vaD}, and I forgot as well to use the imperative suffixes. Thank you
> for bringing these mistakes to my attention !
>
> ..now lets continue with our story :
>
> bergh HoD 'ej jach: «yItamchoH! 'ach romuluSnganDaq SoH qangeH!»
> the captain was irritated and said : you get quite ! however I will
> send you to the romulan.
>
> If you would allow me QISta' to make a suggestion : In english we may
> say meaning that became irritated> ; in klingon however we express the
> quality
> through the use of the {-choH}. So I think that it would be better if
> the sentence was written {berghchoH HoD}.
>
> anyway..
>
> jIHDaq HIghoS ; cha' 'avwI'pu'vaD jatlh HoD.. be'vam yIbagh 'ej
> romulSngan may'DujDaq yIQol.
>
> mIv Hurgh qunnoq
> it took me an hour to write the sylvester mail
>
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 11:25 PM, chransberry at gmail.com
> wrote:
>> qagh be' cha'DIch: "'ach, vIHaDmeH yIHmey vIpolnIS!"
>> The second woman interrupted, "But, I keep tribbles to study them!"
>>
>> bergh HoD 'ej jach: «yItamchoH! 'ach romuluSnganDaq SoH qangeH!»
>>
>> -QISta'
>>
>>
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>> -----Original message-----
>>
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>> Sent: Tue, Feb 23, 2016 18:42:54 GMT+00:00
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