[Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: meq

[John R. Harness]

Concerning that last sentence, I'm not sure that it works.

ghaH QaQ law' chaH QaQ law', mojlaHbe' luQaHbe'chugh 'e' meq ghaH.
he reasoned that if they didn't help him he wouldn't be able to become
as good as them.

(Note: Your suggestion of using -Qo' instead is a good one.)

ghaH QaQ law' chaH QaQ law'

If you are trying to say "They are more good than him" you need to say
{chaH QaQ law' ghaH QaQ puS.} The parts have to come in that order, with
the {law'} coming first. (I imagine that using law' twice was just a
mistake. If that was intentional, then I *really* don't understand.)

To say what you are saying in the rest of the sentence(s), I would use:

luQaHQo'chugh, rurchoHlaHbe' 'e' meq ghaH.

I'm not sure how to connect this to "him" becoming better like "them."

Q for everyone: Can you put -mo' in the midst of the law' / puS
construction?



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On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 11:26 AM, mayql qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:

> now that I'm thinking of it again, perhaps on the last sentence,
> instead of {luQaHbe'chugh}, it would be better if it was
> {luQaHQo'chugh}
>
> cpt qunnoq
> ngaj pIqDaj 'ej ghaH loS ghe''or 'e' Sovmo' ghaH
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 7:23 PM, mayql qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
> > The question is, is this to be taken as <to resaon with> or <to
> > reason> ? Since the former is not clearly suggested lets assume the
> > latter..
> >
> > verenganpu' luQaw'nISlu' 'e' meq ghaH.
> > he reasoned that someone needed to destroy the ferengi.
> >
> > vInumHa'laH ; meqpu' ghaH.. yaS QaQ ghaH !
> > I'm unable to demote him ; he reasoned.. He is a good officer !
> >
> > toQDujchaj QaQ law' Hoch Dujmey QaQ puS 'e' lumeq.
> > they reasoned that their bird of prey was the best of all ships.
> >
> > Hoch Ha'DIbaHmey DIHoHnIS. meqpu' HoD.. QIp bIH 'e' Dalegh'a' ? Ha' !
> > nuQaH vIghro'mey !
> > we need to kill all dogs. the captain reasoned.. don't you see that
> > they are stupid ? come on ! the cats will help us !
> >
> > ghaH QaQ law' chaH QaQ law', mojlaHbe' luQaHbe'chugh 'e' meq ghaH.
> > he reasoned that if they didn't help him he wouldn't be able to become
> > as good as them.
> >
> > cpt qunnoq
> > ngaj pIqDaj 'ej ghaH loS ghe''or 'e' Sovmo' ghaH
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 5:10 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer at uchicago.edu>
> wrote:
> >>> Klingon Word of the Day for Friday, February 19, 2016
> >>>
> >>> Klingon word: meq
> >>> Part of speech: verb
> >>> Definition: reason
> >>
> >> AFAIK never used by Okrand in a sentence.
> >>
> >> Cf. idiom {notlh tonSaw'lIj} "Your argument is invalid". (qep'a' 2012,
> via Felix Malmenbeck, 9/01/2012)
> >>
> >> Note the homophonous noun {meq} "reason, motive":
> >>
> >> KGT 154:  A close standard equivalent is {meq} (reason)--that is,
> logical thinking.
> >>
> >> Klingons may not care whether a falsehood is intentional, but only
> whether the information is reliable. As Ambassador Kell admonished Worf,
> "Motives? Who cares for motives? Humans, perhaps." (TNG "The Mind's Eye")
> He was referring to the proverb:
> >>
> >>   ram meqmey
> >>   Motives are insignificant.  TKW
> >>
> >> Note also {meqba'} *mek'ba* (type of legal proceeding: i.e. that
> portion of a Klingon trial or appeal in which evidence is heard during
> which all evidence must be heard in open council [cf. TNG "Sins of the
> Father"])
> >>
> >> SEE ALSO:
> >> Hech            intend, mean to (v)
> >> Qub             think (v)
> >> Har             belive (v)
> >> Sov             know (v)
> >>
> >> ghoH            argue, dispute (v)
> >> Sol             quarrel (v)
> >> qap             insist (v)
> >> ja'chuq         discuss (v)
> >> tlhoch  contradict (v)
> >> qagh            interrupt (v)
> >> poQ             demand (v)
> >>
> >> ngoQ            goal, purpose (n)
> >> vIt             truth (n)
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Voragh
> >> tlhIngan ghantoH pIn'a'
> >> Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
> >>
> >>
> >>
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