[Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: lIng

lojmIttI'wI'nuv lojmitti7wi7nuv at gmail.com
Tue Feb 2 08:10:38 PST 2016


If you can find the canon, it might help impress on me this difference so that I will be less likely to make a similar error in the future.

Thanks.

pItlh
lojmIt tI'wI'nuv



> On Feb 2, 2016, at 10:33 AM, SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:
> 
> On 2/2/2016 9:41 AM, seruq wrote:
>> Other than some strange astronomical event, can a day be not whole?
>> Perhaps it would be better to use a different word in order to figure this out.
>> chab.
>> 
>> There is more than one chab on the table.
>> One is whole, nothing missing, nobody took a piece yet.
>> Another already has a slice or two taken from it.
>> 
>> Someone comes along and wants to eat.
>> chab naQ Sop.  He ate the pie which is whole.  He did not eat the one that was missing a slice.  You could also say, naQbogh chab Sop.
>> chab naQHa' Sop.  He ate the pie which is not whole.  He took the one that already had a slice missing.  You could also say, naQHa'bogh chab Sop.
>> 
>> But those don't mention how much he ate.
>> 
>> chab naQ Hoch Sop.  He ate all of the whole pie.
>> chab naQHa' Hoch Sop.  He ate all of the partial pie.
>> chab naQ 'op Sop.  He ate some of the whole pie.  So now we have two partial pies.
>> chab naQHa' 'op Sop.  He ate some of the partial pie.  So now we still have the whole pie, and the partial pie is a little bit smaller.
>> 
>> Hoch chab naQ Sop.  He ate all the whole pies.  Plural.  There were more than one whole pie.  He ate all the whole ones, and left all the partial ones.
>> Hoch chab naQ 'op Sop.  He ate some of all the whole pies.  He took a bite from each pie which was whole.
>> Hoch chab naQHa' Sop.  He ate all the partial pies.  Left the whole pies.
> 
> I wrote a reply showing what canon evidence we have supporting this, but it seems to have vanished due to an SMTP server error. I'll send it if it shows up again.
> 
> Meanwhile, DloraH's (seruq's?) reply shows well the difference between {Hoch} and {naQ}.
> 
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