[Tlhingan-hol] Piraha

lojmIt tI'wI' nuv 'utlh lojmitti7wi7nuv at gmail.com
Sat Oct 31 13:35:06 PDT 2015


Many Klingonists are also computer programmers. Recursion means something quite different to them, though I can see the relationship. In software, recursion means that you take the output from a block of code (instructions) and use it for input for that same block of code. Fractal graphics, which were all the rage a decade or so ago are the result of recursive functions. Encryption algorithms heavily rely on recursive functions.

In Klingon, the guideline is simple: One main verb. Maybe use a conjunction to come up with two main verbs, though that’s really two sentences stuck together.

[Apologies in advance to qunnoQ HoD)

In English, you can write a very long, run-on sentence without really using a conjunction because there are so many different varieties of helper words that can tie yet another major idea on to the stream that you have already started and such a wide variety of types of dependent clauses, without the restriction of the brief list of Type 9 verb suffixes in Klingon, plus there definitely is absolutely no question as to whether or not it is proper to use multiple adverbs applied to a single verb, plus the ability to apply suitably appropriate adverbs to adjectives (a construction that doesn’t exist in Klingon), and you can use many descriptive, colorful, situationally specific adjectives to describe each noun without any abnormal sense of complication, unlike in Klingon where we tend to think we can’t use two adverbs for a single verb, and if we have two adjectives, we should use at least one of them as a relative clause, just to avoid stringing them along, confusing people, since sometimes in Klingon a word might be ambiguous as to whether it is a noun or verb, unless it has an affix that would identify it as such, and that ambiguity could be particularly confusing in a long string of root words in a phrase.

In Klingon, even if we had the vocabulary to say that last run-on sentence, we’d be wise to break it down into many sentences. I also agree with qunnoQ that it’s similarly wise to do so in English. Just because I can do it, doesn’t make it a good idea...

lojmIt tI’wI’ nuv ‘utlh
Door Repair Guy, Retired Honorably



> On Oct 31, 2015, at 4:09 PM, qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirah%C3%A3_language <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirah%C3%A3_language>
> 
> ok.I just saw it ! and this article makes reference too,to the name of the attribute the documentary was talking about. It is called recursion !
> 
> On Sat, Oct 31, 2015 at 10:00 PM, Anthony Appleyard <a.appleyard at btinternet.com <mailto:a.appleyard at btinternet.com>> wrote:
> See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirah%C3%A3_language <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirah%C3%A3_language>
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> Date : 31/10/2015 - 18:40 (GMTST)
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