[Tlhingan-hol] Things missing

[qurgh lungqIj]

I scanned in a number of issues back in 2009 as a test, but they had a
bunch of issues. The biggest one was that the paper used in HolQeD,
especially the older issues, allows a lot of bleed-through of the text on
the backside of the page (eg http://hol.kag.org/Save0001.JPG). I tried many
different ways of scanning, and that was the best I could get. There may be
ways to clean it up, but it will never be as good as a generated PDF file.
The scanned PDFs I created were also very large even after compression, due
to them being a collection of images instead of actual text (5+MB scanned
vs 135KB generated).

qurgh

On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 12:09 PM, Will Martin <lojmitti7wi7nuv at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I find it difficult to believe that with all the computer geeks in this
> group, nobody can read the original files. I would find it easier to
> believe that a certain person may have lost them.
>
> I have all of the HolQeD volumes, and if I could get Lawrence’s
> permission, I could scan them and provide them as .pdf files. It would take
> a while, and if someone else also has all the volumes and would be happier
> with the project, they are welcome to it. If I am to be a hero for this
> project, know that the role would be that of a reluctant hero, not a
> possessive, egocentric, glory-seeking fanatic.
>
> If such a possessive, egocentric, glory-seeking fanatic is out there,
> here’s your opportunity. Knock yourself out.
>
> If Lawrence still reads this list, hey, Lawrence, is it okay for me to do
> this with copyright and all?
>
> If he doesn’t still read it, could someone who does get in touch with him
> and ask him?
>
> pItlh
> lojmIt tI'wI'nuv
>
>
>
> On Oct 27, 2015, at 11:51 AM, qurgh lungqIj <qurgh at wizage.net> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 10:53 AM, qunnoQ HoD <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> i believe 3 things are missing,which if existed they would be of great
>> help to Klingon as a language. I realize that for copyright reasons
>> mainly,it would be impossible for these 3 things to actually take place but
>> anyway,here goes..
>>
>> 1. KLI should publish all HolQeD as a book/books and make it available
>> through every major bookstore. The only experience i had of HolQeD was
>> through the "grammarian's desk", which i liked so much that it made me sad
>> to think that there were whole issues of HolQeD i could not acquire. Let
>> alone the fact that i searched for months until i finally found it.
>>
>
> There's been some talk about creating digital versions of HolQeD, but
> AFAIK there are certain barriers that are hard to cross. One of the big
> ones is that the original files for the older HolQeDmey are either
> unavailable or in a format that can no longer be read by modern programs.
> There are a couple of the final issues of HolQeD on the KLI website for
> Members to download.
>
> As for bringing it back from the dead, the main issue there is content.
> Most of the articles that could be written have been written, so it would
> be hard to continuously find new content.
>
>
>
>>
>> 2. Three books should be published ; Beginner - Intermediate - Advanced.
>> Each should focus on grammar having as many exercises as possible,for the
>> student to practice his individual skills depending on his level. And each
>> of these books should be as many pages as possible,so as to keep the reader
>> interested and gradually working his way to higher levels
>>
>
> These would probably have to be made by Paramount/CBS/Okrand, but there's
> little profit to be gained in them so it's unlikely. The KLI's website has
> the first part of a course on it that will teach you the language. Have you
> tried that yet?
>
> qurgh
>
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