[Tlhingan-hol] Noun sequences

[HoD qunnoQ]

>> In Klingon, a title always follows the name of the person it is being
applied to
another interesting thing i didn't know.. so off to change my name.

On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Robyn Stewart <robyn at flyingstart.ca> wrote:

> I didn’t refresh my mail in between reading and answering, but I like how
> succinct that question is.
>
> Succinct answer—if you don’t know, you don’t know.
>
> Long answer:
> Out loud, I think they’d sound a little different. With no context, {*Qov*
> HoD vIlegh} with emphasis on Qov, would be Captain Qov. {Qov **HoD**
> vIlegh} with the emphasis on HoD would suggest that it was my captain. But
> that could be reversed if the conversation involved some doubt about my
> rank, or about whose captain was sighted.  But that would involve context,
> so you’d know.  If someone gets confused, you have to explain with {HoD
> ghaH Qov’e’, HoD ghajbe’} or {HoD ghaHbe’ Qov’e’. HoDDaj’e’ vIqel.}
>
> I have a hat that I call (in English) “my captain’s hat.”  Do you think I
> got it from a captain who mentored me or that it’s part of a uniform I wear
> as a captain?  Neither is true.  It’s a ridiculous rainbow striped sunhat
> that my best friend gave me to celebrate my being hired as a captain.  If
> you don’t know, you don’t know.
>
>
>
> - Qov
>
>
>
> *From:* Anthony Appleyard [mailto:a.appleyard at btinternet.com]
> *Sent:* October 11, 2015 8:45
> *To:* lojmitti7wi7nuv at gmail.com; tlhingan-hol at kli.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Noun sequences
>
>
>
> But please, how to distinguish e.g. "Captain Qov" from "Qov's captain"?
>
> ----Original message----
> From : lojmitti7wi7nuv at gmail.com
> Date : 11/10/2015 - 16:30 (GMTST)
> To : tlhingan-hol at kli.org
> Subject : Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Noun sequences
>
> I don't think that adding a title to a name is necessarily considered to
> be apposition. It's one thing to say "The pilot, Qov, is very experienced."
> That's apposition. In English, it gets a comma. But, "Mr. Martin would like
> a window seat" doesn't have a comma between the title, Mr., and the name,
> Martin.
>
>
>
> In Klingon, a title always follows the name of the person it is being
> applied to, except for HoD Qanqor, who established that name for himself
> before Okrand revealed that the title should follow the name. He'd had it
> for enough years that he decided to simply ignore convention for his name
> alone. Everyone else follows their name with their title, and Qanqor
> follows this convention for all names except his own.
> ....
>
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