[Tlhingan-hol] Beginner's Grammarian: The hunt is on

[Karen Alessio]

is there also a Facebook group for people learning tlhIngan Hol? I ask
since it was just mentioned....
On Nov 9, 2015 10:34 PM, "Rohan Fenwick" <qeslagh at hotmail.com> wrote:

> ghItlhpu' qurgh, bIjatlh:
> > One of the reason the old BG line was broken, was that there wasn't
> > enough traffic on the list to warrant a new BG.
>
> I know. Things change, though, and recently they seem to have changed
> fairly substantially and for the better.
>
> taH:
> > While the recent uptick in activity due to qunnoQ and the new words
> > has been great, is it really enough to warrant a new BG?
>
> (poD vay')
>
> It's not just qunnoQ. It's Karen, and 'aQroS, and Chelsea, and perhaps
> others who haven't stuck their hands up yet. I'm actually surprised it's as
> *high* as 308 (or 170, if you want to use that metric); there are maybe
> twenty or thirty who post on a regular basis, and even accounting for the
> old hands who might still be getting the list traffic, that still leaves
> quite a lot of people. Four beginners have stuck their hands up in the last
> month, qunnoQ posting regularly, Karen a couple times a week. That's
> enough, for my part. Hell, I fervently believe that one is enough. We're
> not such a big community that we can afford to talk about scale of demand.
> If there's even one beginner who is dedicated enough to post to the list,
> surely there must be even one intermediate speaker who can assist them as
> BG, and have the opportunity to develop their own skills as a Klingon
> language speaker (and teacher) in the process.
>
> Even just in general, the list is also much more active now than it was
> back in the late 2000s - there was a while there where all traffic, not
> just beginners, dropped close to zero. The recent Star Trek movies have
> done some to help put Klingon back in the public eye, and if we can ride
> the Abrams wave for a little while longer, we may be able to draw more.
>
> taH:
> > Perhaps we can do something different. Instead of having the intermediate
> > speakers use the new students to improve their understanding, we could
> > have the advance speakers/Grammarians help pull the intermediate
> > speakers up.
>
> The initial idea motivating the creation of the BG position was to foster
> and encourage beginners. The fact that serving as BG is a brilliant way to
> improve one's own Hol is a side benefit, of sorts. I do like your idea
> about having the advanced speakers working to pull the intermediate ones up
> in a more systematic way, and that's something I think we definitely should
> explore. I'd be keen to participate in such a system. But at the same time,
> having an "instead of" focus on advanced speakers teaching intermediate
> speakers will result in the few beginners we do have being left behind.
> That's emphatically bad for our community.
>
> taH:
> > While the BG role has been very important in the past, perhaps we should
> > look at other ways to use the list in lieu of new students.
>
> I can't agree that anything "in lieu of" is a good approach to take. We
> need to be thinking "as well as". The growth in the Facebook community is
> fantastic and beyond anything I'd imagined; we definitely need to think
> some more about how to develop the community there, too. But the list still
> lives, relatively small though it may be, and is still frequented by
> beginners, relatively few though they may be. We need to continue making
> our resources available on every front we're humanly capable of.
>
> QeS 'utlh
>
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