[Tlhingan-hol] vulqa'nganpu'

[mayql qunenoS]

> The Sentence As Object (SAO) construction, according to what we are told has one sentence referring back to a
> separate, grammatically distinct OTHER sentence. The pronoun {‘e’} doesn’t refer back to an earlier part of the same
> sentence it is part of. It refers back to an earlier sentence. A separate, earlier sentence.

ok, now I understand (I think).. the way I used {'ach} it was
referring to the second sentence, while having been placed before the
{'e'}. So, as I now understand this to be, in SAO, everything that
comes after the {'e'} must refer to second sentence, except if it is
an adverb which concerns the second sentence, which can be placed
right before the {'e'}.

cpt qunnoQ

On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 7:26 PM, mayql qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
>> consider that the entire construction, made of two sentences,
>> is itself also a complex sentence, so you can conjoin the complex
>> sentence with the previous one.
>
> ok, thanks !
>
>> By the way, {Hot} means "touch, feel," not "feel with emotions."
>
> to confess my sin, I knew I was using {Hot} wrongly while I was
> writing the sentence, however I couldn't find any other way to say in
> klingon "to feel (emotions)". do you have any ideas ?
>
> cpt qunnoQ
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 5:45 PM, SuStel <sustel at trimboli.name> wrote:
>> On 12/31/2015 10:25 AM, mayql qunenoS wrote:
>>>
>>> I still don't understand..
>>>
>>> is this sentence right or wrong ?
>>>
>>> maHotlaHmo' manenchoHlaH, 'ach tugh 'e' vItlhoj.
>>> however soon I realized, that because we are able to feel, we are able
>>> to grow/mature.
>>>
>>> and if it is wrong, what is its wrong part ? the placement of the {'ach}
>>> maybe ?
>>
>>
>> I've never seen a sentence conjunction used inside a sentence-as-object like
>> this, but I can't see anything actually WRONG with it. I presume there is a
>> preceding sentence which {'ach} is joining this sentence with.
>>
>> I find the construction hard to parse. How about this: consider that the
>> entire construction, made of two sentences, is itself also a complex
>> sentence, so you can conjoin the complex sentence with the previous one.
>>
>> In other words,
>>
>>    yadda yadda yadda, 'ach maHotlaHmo' manenchoHlaH tugh 'e' vItlhoj
>>
>> I find this much easier to parse, though I'm not saying it's more correct
>> than yours.
>>
>> By the way, {Hot} means "touch, feel," not "feel with emotions."
>>
>>
>> --
>> SuStel
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