[Tlhingan-hol] Hints and Tips : OVS

[mayql qunenoS]

I have been discussing the prefix trick with myself, and a new
question/observation just came to mind..

I noticed from the aforementioned examples that the prefix trick
"eliminates" the direct mentioning of a pronoun.

In the {jIHvaD taj Danob} and {taj chonob} example the {jIHvaD} is eliminated.
In the {SoHvaD tlhIngan Hol vIghojmoH} and {tlhIngan Hol qaghojmoH}
the {SoHvaD} is eliminated.

By saying "eliminated" meaning of course, that its meaning is
expressed using the prefix trick.

However, take into account this sentence :

I showed the dog where the cat is.
I showed the cat for the dog.
Ha'DIbaHvaD vIghro' vI'angpu'.

Is there a way I could use here the prefix trick ? I suppose I could
say vIghro' vI'angpu' (I showed it the cat), however it would not be
specified to whom I showed the cat.

So, my observation/question is that unless there is a pronoun to be
"eliminated" the prefix trick can't be used. Is this a correct
observation/conclusion ?

cpt qunnoQ

On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 7:32 PM, mayql qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
> ok, De'vID thank you ! Now I understand.
>
> qunnoq
>
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 6:45 PM, De'vID <de.vid.jonpin at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 30 December 2015 at 17:14, mayql qunenoS <mihkoun at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> (or with the prefix trick, the indirect object)
>>>
>>> I know that this isn't the actual subject of this thread, however
>>> could you please (or anyone else) write 2-3 sentences as examples
>>> where the prefix trick is applied  ?
>>> I have heard many times, people mentioning it, but unfortunately
>>> I can't understand what it is.
>>
>> {jIHvaD taj Danob} = you give the knife to me, you give me the knife
>>
>> The direct object is {taj} "knife", the beneficiary (or indirect
>> object) is {jIH} "me".
>>
>> This can be rewritten using the prefix trick as:
>> taj chonob = you give me the knife
>>
>> Here, the prefix is {cho-} "you-me", but the direct object is {taj}
>> (it). The {jIHvaD} has been replaced by {cho-}.
>>
>> {SoHvaD tlhIngan Hol vIghojmoH} = I teach the Klingon language to you,
>> I teach you Klingon
>>
>> The direct object is {tlhIngan Hol}, the beneficiary (or indirect
>> object) is {SoH} "you".
>>
>> This can be rewritten using the prefix trick as:
>> {tlhIngan Hol qaghojmoH} = I teach you the Klingon language
>>
>> Again, {qa-} indicates "I-you", but the direct object is {tlhIngan Hol}.
>>
>> --
>> De'vID
>>
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