[Tlhingan-hol] Interactions between verb suffixes

De'vID de.vid.jonpin at gmail.com
Sat Dec 19 18:26:43 PST 2015


QeS:
> The thing is, though, that canon does show there's breadth in how the
> causative interacts with Type 2s. {vIchennISmoH} (MSN 30-11-1997) and
> {vISay'nISmoH} (PK) show that {-moH} can raise the scope of {-nIS} along
> with it, but on the other hand, {SuvqangmoHchu'} (paq'batlh: paq'raD 7:20)

{Suvchu'meH / ghaH SuvqangmoHchu' / molor}
{[Molor's action] fueled his will to fight / To the death.}

That's a good example showing that the {-qang} applies to the object
of {SuvmoH}.

QeS:
> and {HeghqangmoHlu'pu'} (TKD p.45) show that this isn't necessarily the
> case. So it's likely {HeghqangmoHlu'pu'} can also mean "it was willing to
> cause him to die".

The idea of an unknown/indefinite/general subject being willing to do
something strikes me as odd.

Consider {wIleghlu'} "someone sees us", "we are seen". I can only
interpret {wIleghqanglu'} as "we are willing to be seen", and not as
"someone unknown is willing to see us", "it is someone unknown's will
that we are seen".

But maybe Klingons don't have a problem understanding the sentence that way.

-- 
De'vID



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