[Tlhingan-hol] KLBC: Sentences as objects

John R. Harness cartweel at gmail.com
Thu Dec 17 10:11:01 PST 2015


Ap! I simply missed the message when I checked. Sorry about that! Thanks
for catching it, 'eD.

'arHa


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> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 00:38:28 -0500
> From: "Bellerophon, modeler" <bellerophon.modeler at gmail.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] KLBC : Sentences as objects
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> qunnoQ wrote:
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> > qavan 'arHa'. I was wondering..
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> > We know that we can say :
> >
> > {jIQong vIneH} <I want to sleep.>
> > {qalegh vIneH} <I want to see you.>
> > {Dalegh vIneH} <I want you to see him/her.>
> > {qama'pu' vIjonta' vIneH} <I wanted to capture prisoners.>
> >
> > So I would like to ask you,if in a similar way one could say :
> >
> > {Ha'DIbaHwIj DaHoH DanID} <you try to kill my dog>
> > {luyu' lulIj} <they forget to question him>
> > {choQaH bIqet} <you run to help me>
> >
> >
> I don't want to step on John's toes, but maybe he's busy today. I'm sure
> he'll have good advice for you, but I can see that you'll be able answer
> your own question. Just read TKD 6.2.5.
> After you take care of that, you have problems with the last two sentences.
> Translate them literally into English, letting the chips fall where they
> may. I expect you'll get something totally different from your intended
> meaning.
> When we stick an infinitive after a verb, like "You try to kill," "They
> forget to question," or "You run to help," each one uses the infinitive in
> a different role. We know what it means in each case, but we're so used to
> the weird things English does, we rarely notice that they're weird. If you
> think about how the two verbs are related in each case to form the overall
> meaning, you'll find a better way to say it in Klingon.
> ~'eD
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