[Tlhingan-hol] Aspect, etc

SuStel sustel at trimboli.name
Thu Dec 3 09:08:52 PST 2015


On 12/3/2015 11:59 AM, Will Martin wrote:
> That said, I think that your accurate and thorough understanding of the
> difference between perfective and perfect is probably clearer than the
> actual use of {-pu’} and {-ta’} in canon or in general usage. The
> example that you give, {vaj Daleghpu’}, from ST3 does not imply that at
> the time context of the statement the completion of the action occurs.
> Kruge is recognizing that in the context of “now”, the action of
> Valkris’s seeing the Genesis Project has already been completed.

No. Kruge never gives a time context for his statement. He doesn't say 
{DaH Daleghpu'} or {wa'Hu' Daleghpu'} or anything like that. He says 
{vaj Daleghpu'}. By a strictly perfective interpretation, which is what 
TKD invites us to envision, this means Valkris sees and completes seeing 
it, AND HE DOESN'T SAY WHEN THIS HAPPENS. Of course, they both 
understand that the seeing happened in the past, but this is not 
expressed in the sentence.

You're adding a "context of 'now'" where one doesn't exist.

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