[Tlhingan-hol] [KLBC] Tlinget influence?

[Anthony Appleyard]

I have been to Wales many times, and Welsh "ll" is not Klingon / Nahuatl / etc "tl(h)", but merely "L" pronounced without vibrating the vocal cords.

But in modern Icelandic, original Old Norse single "L" has stayed {l}, but original Old Norse double "LL" has become {tlh}, as in that now well known volcano name Eyjafjallajökull, which is now pronounced {eyyafyatlhayökutlh}.

----Original message----
>From : sboozer at uchicago.edu
Date : 23/10/2014 - 14:23 (GMTST)
To : tlhingan-hol at kli.org
Subject : Re: [Tlhingan-hol] [KLBC] Tlinget influence?

Casey Ransberger[] :
>> Does anyone know if the Tlinget language was an influence on the design
>> of tlhIngan Hol?
>>
>> The "Tl" in Tlinget is indistinguishable to my ear the from "tlh" used
>> in Klingon. ....
 
> I believe the {tlh} phoneme also occurs in Nahuatl and Navaho - both well studied by linguists.  Okrand may have come across them in his class work or reading; apparently it's not uncommon in Amerindian languages.  (OTOH the sound is in Welsh too, spelled "ll" IIRC.)