[Tlhingan-hol] vagh jaj, vagh 'uy' DarSeq je

[Brent Kesler]

nIqolay, voragh je Satlho'neS. {law'}, {puS} je lo'meH, DaHjaj jIH val
law', wa'Hu' jIH val puS.

bI'reng


On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Steven Boozer <sboozer at uchicago.edu>
wrote:

> bI'reng:
> < I was wondering about comparatives just last night.  Here's my general
> < thinking. It's easy when the comparison is a straightforward "This noun
> < is more adjective than that noun." For example:
> <
> <    1. batlh potlh law' yIn potlh puS [TKW]
> <       Honor is more important than life.
> <
> < It gets a little more complicated when you want to compare ideas rather
> < than just nouns.
> <
> <    2. QamvIS Hegh qaq law', torvIS yIn qaq puS [TKW]
> <       Better to die on our feet than live on our knees.
> <
> < We can dissect this all day, I'm sure. We could see {QamvIS Hegh} and
> < {torvIS yIn} as noun phrases, that way they fit the standard [A Q law',
> < B Q puS] formula. [....]
>
> Talking about comparisons... noun phrases in the A and B slots (marked by
> angle brackets) can be fairly complicated:
>
>   DujvamDaq <tlhIngan nuH tu'lu'bogh> pov law' Hoch pov puS 'ej DujvamDaq
>   <'op SuvwI' tu'lu'bogh> po' law' <tlhIngan yo' SuvwI' law'> po' puS
>   It [IKC Pagh] has the best weapons and some of the finest warriors in
>   the Klingon fleet. S7
>
> Also note that each comparison in this compound sentence is prefaced by
> {DujvamDaq} "in this ship".  Other examples of using an introductory place
> stamp (again marked in angle brackets) are:
>
>   <reH latlh qabDaq> qul tuj law' Hoch tuj puS
>   The fire is always hotter on someone else's face. PK
>
>   <qIbDaq SuvwI''e'> SoH Dun law' Hoch Dun puS
>   You would be the greatest warrior in the galaxy. ST5
>
> Another way to compare ideas is to preface the {law'/puS} formula with a
> dependent clause, setting out the parameters as it were:
>
>   <jonlu'meH> wo'maj pop tIn law' Hoch tIn puS
>   Our Empire's highest bounty has been placed on his head. (ST5 notes)
>
>   <tlhutlhmeH> HIq ngeb qaq law' bIQ qaq puS
>   Drinking fake ale is better than drinking water. TKW
>
>   <noH ghoblu'DI'> yay quv law' Hoch quv puS
>   In war there is nothing more honorable than victory. TKW
>
>   <tlhIngan wo' yuQmey chovlu'chugh> Qo'noS potlh law' Hoch potlh puS
>   The principal planet of the Klingon Empire, Qo'noS... S27
>
> If you ignore the phrases in angle brackets, the comparisons become simple.
>
>
> --
> Voragh
> Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
>
>
>
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