[Tlhingan-hol] Still untitled beginner story: parts 5 & 6 with translation
Robyn Stewart
robyn at flyingstart.ca
Wed Jul 9 02:51:09 PDT 2014
I support nitpicks for this story.
It's true we don't know whether Sov is more connaître or savoir, but the absence of a second word after all this time kind of suggests that it covers both.
Sum qagh 'e' Sov. suggests to me that a 'has knowledge of, is aware of' sort of meaning works. I think it's weirder that the friend has to point out a restaurant in the person's own neighbourhood than that he Sovs it.
With respect to the alternates you suggest, -lu', and wI- are on not the syllabus. If chup is, I'll substitute it and see if I can use Sov somewhere else. Can someone suggest a usage of Sov that would not trigger this uncertainty?
Also missing is He (I.e. He vISov).
They are Terrans, so a certain amount of wittering is to be expected.
> On Jul 8, 2014, at 22:34, "De'vID" <de.vid.jonpin at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Qov:
> > jatlh jupwI', Ha'! Qe' vISov.
>
> I don't have much to say. This is really a nitpick, but can one {Sov} a {Qe'}? Many languages distinguish between different kinds of knowing (kennen vs. wissen), although Klingon seems not to. What does it mean to "know" a restaurant? Do you mean {Qe' tu'lu' 'e' Sov}, that you know it exists? You "know of" the restaurant, is that {Sov}?
>
> And even if it made sense, would it be something a Klingon would say?
>
> - Qe' vISov.
> - wejpuH. Doj SovlIj. jISaHbe'.
>
> - Qe' vIchup.
> - Ha'! maghoS.
>
> - Qe' wIghoS.
> - lu'.
>
> --
> De'vID
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