[Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: ghay

Brent Kesler brent.of.all.people at gmail.com
Fri Apr 18 09:25:06 PDT 2014


On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 11:32 AM, Robyn Stewart <robyn at flyingstart.ca>wrote:

> If I don’t repeat a subject phrase used for two verbs, I much prefer Hegh
> ‘ej rIQ SuvwI’pu’ law’. Interesting that it’s ‘ej not qoj or pagh there.
>

For me the two sentences are interchangeable, they just differ slightly in
emphasis. {Hegh SuvwI'pu' 'ej rIQ} considers the actions in sequence, while
{Hegh 'ej rIQ SuvwI'pu'} considers the actions together. I don't mean that
they imply the events happened together or sequentially--just that the
speaker, for whatever reason, wants to talk about them together or
sequentially.

Consider these examples:
3. qarDaS HIvpu' 'ej charghpu' tlhIngan QI'.
4. qarDaS HIvpu' tlhIngan QI' 'ej charghpu'.
5. qarDaS HIvpu' tlhIngan QI' 'ej qaStaHvIS wej DISmey, charghpu'.

While 3 and 4 could mean the same thing, 5 has a wrinkle that I think
justifies a sentence structure like 4.


On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 11:46 AM, ghunchu'wI' <qunchuy at alcaco.net> wrote:
>
>
> It seems to me less like repeating a subject and more like describing a
> second subject with the same words. If it were the same {SuvwI'pu' law'} in
> both sentences, I would expect a different conjunction.


This also makes a lot of sense.

bI'reng
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