[Tlhingan-hol] {qoSta'} clarified

[Robyn Stewart]

Hey, we have distinct power supplies and batteries, why can't Klingons? Perhaps a primitive AA dry cell is an 'ul 'aplo' but the higher tech used to power beHmey is a HoS Hal. 

I lean towards the idea that ngaSwI' is generic while 'aplo' might have a defined shape or purpose. 

- Qov

On 2013-07-31, at 13:24, Steven Boozer <sboozer at uchicago.edu> wrote:

> Voragh:
>>> IIRC wasn't {'ul 'aplo'mey} listed in TalkNow! along with
>>> {mIllogh qonwI'} "camera" and {mIllogh qonwI' qoSta'} "film" ?
> 
> Lieven:
>> "along with" is said too much, except that they are in the same category
>> "shopping". There are several different entries in between those words.
> 
> Right, so much for that idea!  So, shopping for the odds and ends a tourist might need then.
> 
>>> Are modern camera batteries rectangular?
>> 
>> The batteries shown in the TN are the same as they have been used during
>> the past thrity years or longer, round, two inch long, half inch thick.
>> Modern cameras can use these standard batteries, but if they are
>> rechargable, they usually are rectangular.
>> 
>> IIRC MO did not see the images when he worked on the translation. qe'San
>> had everything translated as much as he was able to and then gave his list
>> to Okrand to complete it.
>> 
>> I guess that Okrand just had to think about "batteries", and thought
>> something like "thing carrying electricity... Hey, I got the qoSta'
>> 'aplo', so this is the 'ul 'aplo'..."
>> 
>> Just in my own imagination, of course ;- )[]
> 
> As you may recall when we first heard of the word, I imagine that Okrand had forgotten he'd already come up with {HoS Hal} "power supply" for SkyBox S14:
> 
>  nISwI' HIch motlh HoS Hal qengwI' naQ tIq je lurarlu'bogh 'oH
>   tlhIngan nISwI' beH'e' 
>  The Klingon disruptor rifle is a standard hand held disruptor,
>   attached to an extended power supply stock. (S14)
> 
> When used with phasers, these are called "power packs" by the Federation in TOS "The Omega Glory".  Sounds like a battery to me.  <g>
> 
> {HoS Hal} (two words) is not to be confused with {HoSHal} "energy source" which seems to refer to a power generating (or refueling?) facility in Monopoly:
> 
>  HoSHal ghajchugh vay', mI' naghmey tIronmoH. wa'maHlogh boq'egh
>   mI' naghmey; chen qav'ap. ghajwI'vaD qav'ap yIDIl. 
>  If [energy source is] owned, throw dice and pay owner a total
>   ten times amount shown. (MKE)
> 
>  pIvghor yIchu' 'ej HoSHal Sumqu' yIjaH 
>  Advance to the nearest energy source. (MKE)
> 
> 
> --
> Voragh
> Ca'Non Master of the Klingons
> 
> 
> 
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