[Tlhingan-hol] Fwd: RE: Klingon Scrabble

Robyn Stewart robyn at flyingstart.ca
Fri Jan 11 07:59:11 PST 2013


I'm impressed by both your distributions, and have googled to 
determine that English Scrabble does have 100 letters including the 
blanks, but some foreign-language editions have a few more. I don't 
think Klingon needs more than English has, though. Noah, do you 
disagree with any of QeS' tweaks, or shall I send that version to the 
tilemaker, along with our feedback regarding the bilingualism?

I also have a pdf of the letter shapes he intends to use, if anyone 
would like to see a copy of that--I'm going to send one to qurgh.
Qov

At 06:51 '?????' 1/11/2013, you wrote:
>ghItlhpu' Qov, jatlh:
> > Now does anyone want to suggest which letter frequencies we 
> diminish in order to
> > bring the qaghwI' frequency up close to the 'at frequency?
>
>Especially considering that building upon words already on the board 
>is a big part of Scrabble, and a couple of extra qaghwI'mey opens up 
>opportunities for that considering how many affixes contain it.
>
>I know that Noah has put together a frequency distribution, which is 
>pretty good, but I was halfway through my own and so I'll post it as 
>well. It's based on four main texts in substantially different 
>genres: ghIlghameS, the existing portion of mIl'oD veDDIr SuvwI', 
>nuq bop bom, and the Tao Te Ching. nuq bop bom is by far the largest 
>(350431 characters, vs. 122250 for mIl'oD veDDIr SuvwI', 34901 for 
>ghIlghameS, and 22589 for the Tao), so in order to take this into 
>account I multiplied the other three texts' results up so that the 
>populations from each text matched in size. I'm happy to send on the 
>Excel file with the stats in it so that the numbers can be checked.
>
>0 points: chIm (2)
>1 point: 'at (10), qaghwI' (10), 'It (8), 'et (8), 'ot (6), 'ut (6), Hay (5)
>2 points: jay (5), may (5), Day (4), vay (4)
>3 points: lay (3), ghay (2), bay (2), chay (2), Say (2), qay (2), nay (2)
>4 points: tay (2), pay (2)
>5 points: yay (2), way (2)
>6 points: Qay (1), ray (1)
>8 points: tlhay (1)
>10 points: ngay (1)
>
>As in English, the total is 100 tiles, and a sum point total of 200 points.
>
>I've reduced the point value on tlhay, because as Qov points out, 
>it's somewhat overvalued at ten points: in the all-texts percentage, 
>ngay is by far the rarest, having a frequency of 0.86% (compared to 
>tlhay, which has 1.49%, only just behind ray). The current standard 
>distribution has two raymey and for the potential for playing -rgh 
>codas it'd be nice to keep two, but the frequency really doesn't 
>justify it: it's ranked 24th of 26 in the all-texts percentage. The 
>duplication of yay and way is because of the existence of -y/-y' and 
>-w/-w' codas. Noah, in your distribution I would argue that of the 
>two, it should be yay, not way, that has two tiles: way can't appear 
>in the syllable coda for 40% of potential syllable shapes.
>
>Unfortunately there's also the need for a relatively high proportion 
>of vowels so that playing verb prefixes won't deplete the 
>vowel-consonant ratio too much, so the total of vowels is 38 of the 
>98 letter tiles. (The current distribution has 42 vowels.)
>
>QeS
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