[Tlhingan-hol] Fwd: RE: Klingon Scrabble
Tim Stoffel
tim at lionlamb.us
Fri Jan 4 19:55:39 PST 2013
Very interesting!!
Tim Stoffel
--
On Fri, 2013-01-04 at 17:18 -0800, Robyn Stewart wrote:
> I can, but I don't have a platform in which I can write a clever
> script, so this counts each character for itself not as part of its
> Klingon letter. Here's what I get, with my comments.
>
> 72543 - That's the space character, what you'd expect for a 75k
> word novel.
> 44671 a - Our existing distribution gets that right. I wonder if
> this is biased by character names. The main character is named vajar.
> I'll do a version stripped of character and ship names once I have a
> better system.
> 40793 ' - I told you there weren't enough qaghwI'mey in the
> game. It beats out all but one vowel!
> 28488 h - This combines the letter's presence in tlh and gh, but
> excludes H.
> 23699 o
> 22652 e
> 21140 I
> 20469 H - I expected this to be more common in text than in the
> dictionary, because it's in -taH and -Ha' and -laH and -moH and -meH ...
> 20213 u - last of the vowels
> 19024 l - biased because this includes l and tlh
> 17380 t - biased by t + tlh
> 17291 j - interesting. One of the ship names has a j and so does
> the main character's name. That might be a factor. But the main
> character also has a v and and r, so I don't think so.
> 14365 . - Heh. Short sentences, eh?
> 13634 g - A combination of gh + ng
> 13627 m
> 13557 D
> 13455 n - includes n and ng
> 11737 S
> 11226 v
> 9892 q
> 9647 c
> 9530 b
> 9145 p
> 7685 y
> 7653 r
> 6611 w
> 5793 Q
>
> So it looks like yay ray way and Qay should be the high-scoring
> letters. Whoda thunk there were over three times as many Haymey as Qaymey.
>
> As an indication of the cleanliness of the data, here's the rest.
>
> 5067 ,
> 1702 M - two alien characters, one of whom is a main character,
> have names starting in M. The names of alien ships and persons is
> also the explanation for most of the non-Klingon alphabetic characters below.
> 1122 ?
> 691 !
> 374 s
> 172 T
> 171 -
> 141 i
> 132 O
> 126 A
> 126 @ - The pIqaD 'ay' titles are typed in xifan hol, which
> renders the numbers as cartoon swear words.
> 120 x
> 94 U
> 81 E
> 76 F
> 70 R
> 69 &
> 63 L
> 62 :
> 59 G
> 57 #
> 57 $
> 57 %
> 55 ^
> 54 N
> 51 )
> 51 (
> 47 *
> 43 J
> 41 P
> 40 C
> 39 K
> 39 B
> 35 k
> 30 Y
> 29 W
> 27 V
> 24 X
> 18 d
> 16 f
>
> At 22:52 '?????' 1/2/2013, you wrote:
> >Robyn,
> > Could you analyze your own writings? I bet that would give a good
> >letter frequency representation.
> >
> >Tim Stoffel
> >
> >--
> >
> >On Tue, 2013-01-01 at 14:09 -0800, Robyn Stewart wrote:
> > > That's an interesting question. Is the letter frequency distribution
> > > of a large piece of text different than the frequency distribution in
> > > a complete wordlist of that language? I think a list compiled just
> > > from TKD affix and vocabulary lists might competitively
> > > under-represent qaghwI', as it's in so many affixes.
> > >
> > > I found a shortage of qaghwI'mey during game play, but the
> > > artificiality of the arbitrarily high scores for tlh and ng didn't
> > > bother me much. It was just a luck thing.
> > >
> > > - Qov
> > >
> > > At 13:21 '?????' 1/1/2013, Felix Malmenbeck wrote:
> > > > At the risk of showcasing my ignorance with regards to Scrabble:
> > > >
> > > > Does one actually need a corpus to decide character values for
> > > > Scrabble? I imagine that a lexicon along with the rules for
> > > > appending affixes would suffice, as the deciding factor is what
> > > > words can be formed, rather than what words are most commonly used
> > > > (or do rare/difficult words weigh more heavily in that
> > > > calculation?).
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ____________________________________________________________________
> > > > From: David Holt [kenjutsuka at live.com]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 22:14
> > > > To: tlhIngan Hol mailing list
> > > > Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Fwd: RE: Klingon Scrabble
> > > >
> > > > > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Alan Anderson
> > > > <aranders at insightbb.com> wrote:
> > > > > > I got it from DloraH, who got it from janSIy, who I believe
> > > > originated it.
> > > >
> > > > I didn't originate it, but I may have been the first one to bring a
> > > > converted set to the qep'a'. I got the frequencies and values off
> > > > this very list and I no longer remember who did the calculations or
> > > > came up with the values. It was probably 15 years ago. The game is
> > > > fun, but the scores are somewhat artificial since the point values
> > > > were based on rarity of English letters and so it's weird to have
> > > > common letters like <tlh> be worth so many points. I think any new
> > > > calculations should be based on Qov's <nuq bop bom>, since that is a
> > > > large piece of original tlhIngan Hol writing.
> > > >
> > > > janSIy
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