[Tlhingan-hol] Fwd: RE: Klingon Scrabble

Robyn Stewart robyn at flyingstart.ca
Fri Jan 4 17:18:19 PST 2013


I can, but I don't have a platform in which I can write a clever 
script, so this counts each character for itself not as part of its 
Klingon letter. Here's what I get, with my comments.

72543       - That's the space character, what you'd expect for a 75k 
word novel.
44671   a  - Our existing distribution gets that right. I wonder if 
this is biased by character names. The main character is named vajar. 
I'll do a version stripped of character and ship names once I have a 
better system.
40793   '    - I told you there weren't enough qaghwI'mey in the 
game. It beats out all but one vowel!
28488   h   - This combines the letter's presence in tlh and gh, but 
excludes H.
23699   o
22652   e
21140   I
20469   H - I expected this to be more common in text than in the 
dictionary, because it's in -taH and -Ha' and -laH and -moH and -meH ...
20213   u  - last of the vowels
19024   l   - biased because this includes l and tlh
17380   t   - biased by t + tlh
17291   j - interesting. One of the ship names has a j and so does 
the main character's name. That might be a factor. But the main 
character also has a v and and r, so I don't think so.
14365   .  - Heh. Short sentences, eh?
13634   g - A combination of gh + ng
13627   m
13557   D
13455   n - includes n and ng
11737   S
11226   v
9892    q
9647    c
9530    b
9145    p
7685    y
7653    r
6611    w
5793    Q

So it looks like yay ray way and Qay should be the high-scoring 
letters.  Whoda thunk there were over three times as many Haymey as Qaymey.

As an indication of the cleanliness of the data, here's the rest.

5067    ,
1702    M - two alien characters, one of whom is a main character, 
have names starting in M. The names of alien ships and persons is 
also the explanation for most of the non-Klingon alphabetic characters below.
1122    ?
691     !
374     s
172     T
171     -
141     i
132     O
126     A
126     @ - The pIqaD 'ay' titles are typed in xifan hol, which 
renders the numbers as cartoon swear words.
120     x
94      U
81      E
76      F
70      R
69      &
63      L
62      :
59      G
57      #
57      $
57      %
55      ^
54      N
51      )
51      (
47      *
43      J
41      P
40      C
39      K
39      B
35      k
30      Y
29      W
27      V
24      X
18      d
16      f

At 22:52 '?????' 1/2/2013, you wrote:
>Robyn,
>     Could you analyze your own writings? I bet that would give a good
>letter frequency representation.
>
>Tim Stoffel
>
>--
>
>On Tue, 2013-01-01 at 14:09 -0800, Robyn Stewart wrote:
> > That's an interesting question. Is the letter frequency distribution
> > of a large piece of text different than the frequency distribution in
> > a complete wordlist of that language?  I think a list compiled just
> > from TKD affix and vocabulary lists might competitively
> > under-represent qaghwI', as it's in so many affixes.
> >
> > I found a shortage of qaghwI'mey during game play, but the
> > artificiality of the arbitrarily high scores for tlh and ng didn't
> > bother me much. It was just a luck thing.
> >
> > - Qov
> >
> > At 13:21 '?????' 1/1/2013, Felix Malmenbeck wrote:
> > > At the risk of showcasing my ignorance with regards to Scrabble:
> > >
> > > Does one actually need a corpus to decide character values for
> > > Scrabble? I imagine that a lexicon along with the rules for
> > > appending affixes would suffice, as the deciding factor is what
> > > words can be formed, rather than what words are most commonly used
> > > (or do rare/difficult words weigh more heavily in that
> > > calculation?).
> > >
> > >
> > > ____________________________________________________________________
> > > From: David Holt [kenjutsuka at live.com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2013 22:14
> > > To: tlhIngan Hol mailing list
> > > Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Fwd: RE: Klingon Scrabble
> > >
> > > > On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 11:57 PM, Alan Anderson
> > > <aranders at insightbb.com> wrote:
> > > > > I got it from DloraH, who got it from janSIy, who I believe
> > > originated it.
> > >
> > > I didn't originate it, but I may have been the first one to bring a
> > > converted set to the qep'a'.  I got the frequencies and values off
> > > this very list and I no longer remember who did the calculations or
> > > came up with the values.  It was probably 15 years ago.  The game is
> > > fun, but the scores are somewhat artificial since the point values
> > > were based on rarity of English letters and so it's weird to have
> > > common letters like <tlh> be worth so many points.  I think any new
> > > calculations should be based on Qov's <nuq bop bom>, since that is a
> > > large piece of original tlhIngan Hol writing.
> > >
> > > janSIy
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