[Tlhingan-hol] "Never give up; never surrender"

[lojmIt tI'wI' nuv]

I certainly see this word order as correct, though I had not thought of it as exclusively correct. Perhaps I have missed something. I thought Okrand had been clear that certain things came before the direct object, but wasn't all that clear about a specific priority among things on the list of before-the-object items. 

It was hard enough deciphering which dependent clauses could optionally follow the main clause and which ones strictly have to precede it (leading me to favor the safer option of always preceding). Adverbs, Type 5 suffixed nouns, type 9 suffixed verbs... There's a rule to sift out which comes first? 

Please remind me. I'm getting senile. 

I still wish we could use multiple adverbials.

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On May 28, 2012, at 1:53 PM, Terrence Donnelly <terrence.donnelly at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> --- On Mon, 5/28/12, David Trimboli <david at trimboli.name> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 5/26/2012 10:01 PM, Terrence
>> Donnelly wrote:
>>> 
> 
>>> How about using {-'e'}? I think we've lost a powerful
>> tool by not
>>> understanding its full possibilities as a topic-marker,
>> {not Qu''e'
>>> jIjegh, not jagh'e' jIjegh} "As for tasks, never
>> surrender, as for
>>> enemies, never surrender.}
>> 
>> Ha! I'm usually ignored when I suggest using {-'e'} in this
>> way.
>> 
>> Per TKD 6.7, I'd probably arrange this as {Qu''e' not
>> yIjegh; jagh'e'
>> not yIjegh}. {Qu''e'} and {jagh'e'} are "elements of another
>> type"
>> (because they're not the objects of {yIjegh}, and {not}
>> should go
>> between them and the verbs.
>> 
> 
> Really? I had no idea you supported this notion; I always thought I was alone in it.
> 
> I base my belief on {HaqwI''e' DaH yISam}; "As for the surgeon, find him now!". Of course, you are right about the placement vis-a-vis the adverbs.
> 
>> -- 
>> SuStel
>> http://www.trimboli.name/
> 
> -- ter'eS
> 
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