[Tlhingan-hol] nuq bop bom: 'ay' wa'vatlh chorghmaH wa': narghbe'chugh SuvwI' qa' taH may'

[Robyn Stewart]

At 10:52 '?????' 5/21/2012, you wrote:
>On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:36 AM, Qov <robyn at flyingstart.ca> wrote:
>
>...'ej vItIvrup. chaq mu'mey pab je vIbuS 'ej lut'e' vInuDbe'.
>
> > Dop chob machvo' ghoS chang'eng. wej rIQ SuvwI' 'ach HoHmeH 'eb
> > lujonqu'ruplaw'. Doy'choHlaw' 'ach tonSaw' Dun lu'aghtaH. much rur 'ach
> > ghetbe'mo' much rurbe'. ngol HungpIn 'ej chuQ.
>
><chaQ> DaghItlhHa'ba'.

mu' vIqawHa'ba'. yabwIjDaq <chaQ> <chuH> je vIDuDlaw'. chaq DaH chaQ vIqaw.

> > way'Ha'DI' be'tlhar woS bIng
> > DuQchu' HungpIn betleH pach.
>
>pach 'oH'a' betleH megh'an'e'? 'uchlaHbe'. SoQchoHlaHbe'. pach 
>rurbe' 'e' vIQub.

Daj. jIHvaD 'uchnISbe' pach 'ej SoQnISbe'choH. jejnIS 'ej tIqnIS 'ej 
vay' jeqnIS. SoHvaD DuQwI' vItam.

> > purDI' qev wa' Hugh rur wab.
>
>wa' Hugh rur'a'? be'tlhar Hugh buQlu'. bejwI' Hugh vIqel net chupDI',
>loQ vIDachmoHlu'. wa' ghogh'e' rur'a' wab?

mISmoHlaH Hugh pIm 'e' vIqelbe'. vIchoH. DaH: <pe'vIl pur qev net QoylaH.>

> > jachpu'chugh
> > be'tlhar Qoybe'pu' vajar. Hugh SIjbe'pu' betleH. woS neH DuQ. narghmeH nach
> > pep 'e' nID be'tlhar
>
>(see my later comment)

vIchoHta' je.

> > 'ach ta'choHDI' betleH SalmoH HungpIn. qaStaHvIS may'
> > pIj HoH wa' Qagh.
>
>(pIj HoH 'e' vIHon. wa'logh neH HoH. :-P jIqIDnISchoH. meqwIj yajlu' 
>'e' vIpIH.)

yajlu'.

> > nuj poSmoHDI' be'tlhar jatvo' jeq
> > betleH QIn net leghlaH. nujvo' 'Iw tuy' jatlhlaw'taHvIS 'ach chuSmo'
> > bejwI'pu', mu'meyDaj QoylaHbe' vajar. jeghbe'law'. nuj SoQta'DI' loQ betleH
> > jIrmoH HungpIn. HoHmeH Hugh nejlaw' 'etlh. junmeH nogh be'tlhar 'ej
> > betleHDaj'e' jopqu'. HungpIn chor DuQpu'. DoH HungpIn 'e' nID
>
>Earlier you wrote {nach pep 'e' nID be'tlhar}. I didn't suggest
>putting {be'tlhar} after the first verb and before {'e'} when I
>encountered it, though I would have considered it easier to read.
>Since you did choose to do that with {HungpIn} here, I'll mention the
>earlier phrasing and let you decide whether it's worth changing.
>
> >'ach
> > be'tlharvo' betleH yuvmeH
>
>DoHtaHvIS HungpIn mumISmoH <be'tlharvo' betleH yuvmeH>. wot pIm DaHech'a'?

bIlugh. qechwIj Del <teqmeH>.

> >'ej bot chor DuQtaHbogh 'etlh. ' nargh
> > 'e' nIDqa'DI' be'tlhar, pumchoH 'ej HungpInDaq betleH raD porghDaj. ravDaq
> > pum cha' yaSpu'. 'Iw lughaychoH. HungpIn 'uSDu' jojDaq 'aD'a' SIjpu'law'
> > be'tlhar betleH. chuSqu'be'choH bejwI'pu' choQ nguvmoHtaHvIS tlhIngan 'Iw.
>
>(Hurgh'a' 'Iw? wov'a'? Doq 'ej wov 'e' vIlegh vIneH.)

Doqqu' 'ej wov 'oHbe'bej. 'Iw lughaj tlhInganpu'. Pepto Bismol 
lughajbe'. Doqqu' yInSIp law' qengmo'.

> > HungpIn.
> > be'tlhar QoghIj DuQlaw'pu'. SupchoH ghIvDu'Daj nachDaj je 'ej betleHDaq
> > puy'eghchoH.
>
>nuv Dellaw'DI' <puy> jIbuSnIS. lo'vam lajchu'be' yabwIj.

jIyaj. wot vIparHa' 'ach chaq Duj vIpuylaH. Qaw''egh vItam.

> > SuvwI'pu' QaHruplaw' bejwI'pu' 'ach wej Heghpu'mo' jeSwI'pu'
> > pagh jeghpu'mo', taHtaH may'.
>
>This doesn't sound right to me, but repeating the {wej} after {pagh}
>doesn't sound right either. Changing it to use {V-pu'be'} instead of
>{wej V-pu'} yields something that I don't trip over: {...'ach
>Heghpu'be'mo' jeSwI'pu' 'ej jeghpu'be'mo', taHtaH may'.}

Seng vIyaj. jIchoHchoHDI' laDwI'wIj HoH AVG Update 'ej HoH choHmeywIj 
qIl jay'. jIQuchbe'. DaH latlh Qaghmey vItI'qa'ta' Sengvam vIbuSchoH.

> > mI'taHvIS be'tlhar porgh bejtaHvIS vajar,
> > HeghlI' 'e' Sov, 'ach cha'Hu' ram bel qawmoH. ngugh voqbe'pu'. 'Il'a'?
> >
> > betleH chaghDI' HungpIn 'ej vIHbe'choHDI' tlhabchoH be'tlhar nach. nujDaj
> > teb 'Iw. jatlh 'e' nIDlaw' 'ach mu'mey vo'laHbe'. poStaH mInDu'Daj 'ej
> > vIH'eghtaH ghIvDu'Daj 'ach tlhuHbe' 'ej ghupbe' 'ej tuSbe'.
> > tlhuH 'e' lIjlaw'.
>
>I don't think this sentence says what it should. I suggest {tlhuHnIS
>'e' lIjlaw'} or {tlhuHmeH mIw lIjlaw'}.

yaSmoHbej {tlhuHmeH mIw lIjlaw'}. vIlo'.

> > HeghtaHvIS poStaH mInDu'Daj. cha' SuvwI'pu'vaD jach bejwI'pu' 'ej
> > chobmeyvo' chuSqa' beymey. lut Dun luQoy qorDu'chaj.[150][151]
>
>lut Dun wIlaD je maH.

Duy'mey DacherghtaHvIS lut DatIvlaHmo' jIbel. vIqon 'e' vItIvqu'.

- Qov