[Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: tIv

[Felix Malmenbeck]

The existence of the construction «tIv'egh» is a continuing source of bafflement (if that's a word); I have a really har time going from the literal meaning to the actual meaning of "enjoying one's self"; I'd probably just use «tIv».
I suspect it's the result of Marc thinking in English in both instances, but you never know.

It's interesting that in the Quark's bar example, «tIv» appears to be something that's done actively, rather than being just a reflection on an action; it's not "eat and enjoy food" as opposed to "eat the food but don't enjoy it"; it's "eat the food and enjoy it" as opposed to "don't eat the food at all".
Interesting, since when speaking Klingon, I tend to think of performing an action and enjoying it as two separate points of order. I wouldn't say «nay' 'ey vItIv vIneH.» to mean "I'd like to enjoy a good meal"; I'd say «nay' 'ey vISop vIneH.», and after I'd had it I'd comment on whether or not I enjoyed it.
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From: Steven Boozer [sboozer at uchicago.edu]
Sent: Monday, May 14, 2012 16:04
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Subject: Re: [Tlhingan-hol] Klingon Word of the Day: tIv

> Klingon word: tIv
> Part of speech: verb
> Definition: enjoy

vaj DatIvba'
Then you're obviously enjoying it. CK

Ha'DIbaHmey meQ Sop 'e' tIv tera'nganpu'
Terrans enjoy eating burnt animals. [sic! for 'e' lutIv tera'nganpu'] CK

may' ngeb tIv Hoch
Everyone enjoys a mock battle. CK

ghob tIvnISbe'lu'
One need not enjoy virtue. TKW

bIQapqu'meH tar DaSop 'e' DatIvnIS
To really succeed, you must enjoy eating poison. TKW

QoQ tIv
He/she enjoys [the] music KGT

bom tIv
He/she enjoys [the] song. KGT

yIntaHbogh tlhIngan Soj tlhol jablu'DI' tIvqu'lu'
Klingon food is best when served fresh and live. S21

quwargh tach Qe' je qoDDaq Hov leng Soj DatIv
Enjoy Star Trek themed food and drink at Quark's Bar and Restaurant. STX

petIv'egh
Enjoy yourselves. (ST5 notes)

qep'a' wejDIchDaq jatlhtaH tlhIngan Hol HaDwI'pu'. ghoHtaH je. tIv'eghtaH je.
[(untranslated) st.klingon, MO to SuStel 11/1996]

  "Verb, to take pleasure in a thing, situation, or action. Battle, for instance." (KLS)

  "Though one occasionally hears someone say QoQ tIv (He/she enjoys [the] music) or bom tIv (He/she enjoys the song), music is not really considered something that causes pleasure. Among Klingons, pleasure is deemed quite unessential for one's well-being. More frequently, the appreciation of music is expressed in terms of something that music does to the listener rather than in terms of the listener's reaction. Thus, music is said to embolden (jaqmoH), excite (SeymoH), encourage (tungHa'), or to stimulate or inspire (pIlmoH). Another common way to say that a specific piece or performance of music has a particularly strong effect on a listener is to employ the verb DuQ (literally, stab): muDuQ bom (The song stabs me, or, in a more colloquial Federation Standard form, The song moves me). If the music is judged positively--that is, if the listener likes it--the music is said to be 'ey, using the word normally translated as delicious when talking about food. Rendering 'ey bom as
 The song is good is acceptable, but it fails to capture the real feeling of the Klingon." (KGT 71-72)

Related words:

parHa'  like (v)


--
Voragh
Ca'Non Master of the Klingons

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