[Tlhingan-hol] nuq bop bom: 'ay' cha'vatlh cha'maH chorgh: maghlu'
ghunchu'wI' 'utlh
qunchuy at alcaco.net
Tue Jul 31 06:56:13 PDT 2012
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Robyn Stewart <robyn at flyingstart.ca> wrote:
>
> jol qoreQ 'ar? toH, nIteb vajar jollu' 'e' vIyajchoH. jolpa'Daq ratlh
>> latlhpu'.
>
> DumISmoHpu'mo' vIlISnISlaw'.
>
mu'mey vIlaDbogh vIyaj 'e' vIDubnISlaw' neH jIH.
> pu' HIchDaj lonpu''a'?
>
> Do'Ha' nge' qImyal, jonDI'. chaq lIjbe'meJ laDwI' DaH qelnIS vajar.
>
wej ngoDvam vISovlaH.
> pagh chaq chIch chob mujDaq jolta' lotlhbe'bogh qoreQ.
>
> 'e' DaQub'a'? :-) vIqontaHvIS SIbI' loy laDwI' 'e' vIHaj, 'ach SovtaHvIS
> laDwI' Sovbe'taHvIS qaH'eng vajar je, Qap je lut.
>
mupIHmoHba' 'ay'vam pong.
> ngaQHa'moHwI' wab Qoy. poSmoH lojmIt 'ej 'el qImyal Sa'. quSDaq
>> ba'choH Sa'. vajar bejchoH Sa'. tlhoy' bejtaH vajar 'ach Sa' leghlaH.
>>
> After having {bej} used this way often in the story, "facing the wall"
> comes very easily to mind. I hope it isn't an abuse of the word's true
> meaning.
>
> I did mean it as "watches the wall.". He's not deigning ti turn and look
> at her.
>
I always try to read noncanonical idioms as literally as I can, so the
intended meaning was not lost behind the accidental idiom.
> **
>> {ja'} isn't being used the way I expect that it should here: {boQaw'pu'}
>> has the wrong prefix for it to be reported speech.
>
> I was looking for "reports". But I will change the prefix to accommodate
> requiring it to be reported speech.
>
Another way to "fix" it might be to make the second-person sentence
completely separate. {tach Dapuypu'. muja' HungpIn «luQaw'chu'pu'.»}
> wej qImyal Dup vIyaj. peghDaj ghojpu' Qa'bar 'e' Sovbe''a'?
>
> chobDaq nuq ja' DaqwI'? qImyalvaD De' ja'pu''a'? ghobe'.
>
mIl qImyal, wej 'e' Sov. vIlIjpu'. qaStaHvIS jaj law' lut vIbuSbe', 'ej
wanI'mey Don vIqImchu'be'.
> jan tu'DI' Qa'bar, joy'meHpa' ghoSmeH meH mejpu' qImyal, 'e' wISov.
>
'ej De' law' HutlhtaH, Qapchu'be'taHmo' Duj Qumpat.
- ghunchu'wI'
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