[Tlhingan-hol] qIHpu'ghach wa'DIch: 'ay' cha'

Qov robyn at flyingstart.ca
Sun Jan 29 07:14:03 PST 2012


Has someone already suggested {borgh ngogh Duj'a'} and {borgh moQ Duj'a'}?

At 07:05 29/01/2012, Felix Malmenbeck wrote:
> >> My counter-argument would be that {-'a'} applies only to the 
> word {ngogh}, not the whole phrase, and the {Borg ngogh'a'} 
> certainly is remarkable by the standards of what usually 
> constitutes a {ngogh}. The only canon examples of it to date refer to pillows,
>  loaves of bread, chocolate and building bricks, and the Borg cube 
> beats all of them by a huge margin.
> >That's how I read it, i.e., as {[Borg] [ngogh'a']} not {[Borg ngogh]['a']}.
>Just be sure to be consistent so that later if they talk about a 
>Borg sphere, it's a {Borg moQ'a'} and not a mere {Borg moQ}.
>
>While I agree that the -'a' mostly refers to the ngogh, I feel the 
>word "Borg" sets the context. "From the class of Borg-related 
>things, take a block"...  ...and by the standards of this class, 
>this is not ngogh'a'; it's just a standard-issue ngogh.
>
>I doubt there is such a thing as a universal measure for ngoghmey. 
>If that were the case, you'd have just three categories, which seems 
>rather poor. Rather, let there be ngoghHommey, ngoghmey motlh and 
>ngogh'a'mey for every category.
>
>qeylIS betleH would probably be held as a betleH'a', but it's not 
>called qeylIS betleH'a'; it receives its grandeur from being 
>prefixed by "qeylIS". If you were to refer to qeylIS betleH'a', I'd 
>assume you were talking about the greatest of his many betleHmey.
>Likewise, the telmey of a neghvar are perhaps tel'a'mey when 
>compared to the telDu' of a bird or even the telmey of a toQDuj, but 
>if you were to refer to neghvar tel'a'mey, the idea I'd get is "the 
>Negh'Var's main wings".
>
>Consider also a pilllow might be called QongDaq buqHom (and a 
>sleeping bag a QongDaq buq'a'), and a pants pocket a yopwaH buq. To 
>me, this supports the idea that -'a' and -Hom are distinctions 
>within a category (most of the time, at least; in natural language, 
>I'd expect there to be plenty of exceptions).
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