[Tlhingan-hol] ramwI'mey

Robyn Stewart robyn at flyingstart.ca
Tue Feb 28 12:03:28 PST 2012


At 11:31 28/02/2012, De'vID jonpIn wrote:
>Qov:
> > ghoH 'e' parmo' lojmIt tI'wI' nuv chaq DutlhochQo' 'ach jangnISlu'.
>
>jIghoH vIneHbe'.  jIyajchu' vIneH neH.

jISov. 'ach ghoHchoHbe'meH lojmIt tI'wI' nuv yepqu'. pIj tlhochQo'.

>De'vID:
> >> Duj Daghajbe''a'?  yaHlIjDaq Hung yaH tu'lu'be''a'?
>
>Qov:
> > Daj. SeplIjDaq vumwI'pu'vaD nuHmey pol'a' Hung yaSpu'?
>
>Sep'e' vISovbe' 'ach vogh yaHDaq nuHmey polbej Hung yaS.

SepwIjDaq Hung yaSvaD nuH vImuchchugh DajchoH ghu'.

>lojmIt tI'wI' nuv:
> >> > vIlagh. vIlaghHa'. vIlaghqa'. vIlaghHa'qa'. jImon.
>
>De'vID:
> >> DalaghHa''a'?  pagh Damutlh'a'?
> >> {laghHa'} lo'lu'chugh laghDI' Qagh 'e' vIQub.  ghaytan DalaghHa'be'.
>
>Qov:
> > jIQochqu'. lagh 'ej laghHa'bej. mu'mey ngo' Qaw'be' mu'mey chu'.
>
>pIj {-Ha'} vIyajbe'.  ghorgh {Qagh} 'oS 'ej ghorgh "undo, be/do the
>opposite" 'oS?

rambe' Sengvetlh.

>rut {Qagh} 'oSba':
>{jatlhHa'}
>{bachHa'}
>
>"unspeak", "unshoot" je chavlaHbe'mo' vay' "misspeak", "misfire" je 'oSba'.

jIQochbe'.

>rut "be the opposite" 'oSba':
>{belHa'}
>{QuchHa'}

And being the opposite is really not that different in such cases 
from missing the mark on the first thing.

>rut "undo, do the opposite" 'oS:
>{tuQHa'}
>{buSHa'}
>{nobHa'}
>{parHa'}

Some of them are canon. Some of them are sometimes ambiguous, but in 
the case of this weapon it was very clear what he was doing. I don't 
think it would be wrong to say ...

De'wI'wIj vIlaghtaHvIS bong vIlaghHa'. DaH vagh leQmey vIjomqa'laHbe'.

(jIHvaD teH, je. DaH ESC, F7, F9, F10, INS je vIHutlh).

I honestly don't know whether the distinction is one of familiarity, 
habit or a subconscious process of analyzing what makes the most 
sense in context. Unhappy, undo and unredeemed are similar, qar'a'?

>qatlh "un-disassemble" 'oS {laghHa'} 'ej "mis-disassemble" 'oSbe'?
>vIyajbe'.  {laghHa'} vIlaDDI' {laghDI' Qagh} 'e' vIyaj.
>
>De'vID:
> >> (mu' chu' 'oH {mutlh}'e'.  qen wISuqpu'.)
>
>Qov:
> > laghbe'pu'chugh 'ej HIch chenmoHmeH 'ay'mey Sar lo'chugh chaq 
> mutlh. laghpu'DI' laghHa'bej.
>
>ramqu' mu' chu'.  {mutlh} wIHutlhchugh, {laghHa'} vIyajmeH choHbe'
>mIw.  {-Ha'} vIyajbe'law' neH.

vaj wej wen DayajHa''a' je'? Daj. jabbI'IDlIj wa'DIch vIlaDDI', 
Dachpu'wI'vaD {mutlh} DamuchmeH chIch DayajHa'law'. (DaH bI'Il 'e' 
vISov).  qen DumISmoHpu' {jatlhHa'} 'e' vIqaw

>Qov:
> > taghwI' pabpo' 'utlh ghaH lojmIt tI'wI' nuv'e' taghwI' jIHtaHvIS. 
> choHpu' pong neH.
>
>'e' vISov.

vaj vIHub 'e' Dayaj.


>p.s. DaH taghwI' pabpo' 'Iv?

jISovbe'. wa' wIHutlhlaw'. rut taghwI'pu' vIjang jIH 'ej beppu' pagh.

Let's play a game. See my next mail.

- Qov




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