[Tlhingan-hol] nuq bop bom: 'ay' wa'vatlh vaghmaH chorgh: <HIvwI' ghaH HubwI' nIv'e'>

Qov robyn at flyingstart.ca
Mon Apr 9 15:13:59 PDT 2012


At 13:56 '?????' 4/9/2012, you wrote:
>yIqIm qonwI': tugh Hoch ngeHlu'pu'bogh vIlaDta'.

jISovbej!  ghu'vetlh vItI'nIS.

>On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 1:52 PM, Qov <robyn at flyingstart.ca> wrote:
> > jatlhbe'choHDI' 'eSSIm mu'meyvetlh ja'pu' 'e' pay. vav lut SovmeH, yu'choH
> > Mahoun neHbe'qu'. 'ach yu'be' Mahoun. DaqDaq cha'ta'bogh Qel ghop lan 'ej
> > jatlh, "De'vammo' cholajta''a' maqIHDI'?"
>
>"porghwIjmo' neH choneH."

vIlaD. jIyev. jIHaghqu'!

> > jatlh 'eSSIm, "ghobe'. DaHjaj nuja'pa' Qel, Surarchuq SoH vavwI' je 'e'
> > vISovbe'chu' 'e' vIlay'." laj Mahoun.
>
>ngeDqu'. nom tlhIngan voqqangpu' Mahoun 'e' vIpIHbe'.

nepwI' ghaHbe' 'eSSIm'e' 'e' tlhojlaw'. QeHchoH 'ej De' So' 'ach 
jatlhchugh vIt.

> > tlhuch'eghmeH nIteb mI'choH 'eSSIm.
>
>I'll interpret {tlhuch} as you apparently intended it, but without an
>official indication of its usage I would have used a bland
>{Doy'eghmoH} instead.

Yeah. jIyaj. taQbang wIghajmo' <tlhuch> vetlh'e' vIpoQbe'.  chaq 
jIngor. mu'mey puSvaD jIngortaH. Dejpa' yu''egh DuH cha' 'ej yu''egh 
DejmoHlaH Marc neH.

> > bejtaH Mahoun 'ach vIHqu'mo' 'eSSIm,
> > cholbe'. SaHbe'bogh gholDaj buSmo' 'eSSIm, Mahoun bejbe'.
>
>vIHqu'taHvIS SuvwI' jIcholbe' je. bong DoS vImoj vIneHbe'.

Dayaj.

> > qeqtaHvIS vavoy
> > rut qamDajDaq lIghta' 'eSSIm, 'uS 'uchtaHvIS.
>
>Awwww.

Dayajmo' jIQuch.

> > gho'. jop. QamchoH. tlhe''egh.
> > gho'qa'. vav jeylaH pagh, ngugh 'e' Har. jeyta' vay' vaj DuHlaH Hoch.
>
>(DuHlaHchugh Hoch, vaj puvbogh targh vIleghrup.)

toj'eghwI' po'qu' ghaH.

> > loQ DoH Mahoun. jatlh, "puch." leSqu' 'eSSIm 'ach qechmeyDajmo' loQ DIvtaH.
>
>toH, vay' SuqHa'pu'.

choHaghmoH. tlhIngan HolvaD QapDI' qID vImughlaHbe'chu'bogh jIQuch.

> > HubmeH mIw ghojtaH neH Mahoun. HIvwI' ghaHmo' HubwI' nIv'e'. tlhIngan bep
> > Daqmey cha' 'eSSIm.
>
>(QI' pegh 'oHbe''a' De'vam'e' jay'?)

'oy' Daqmey 'ang. Hegh Daqmey 'angbe'. ghaytan Sovchu' DIvI' 
joy'wI'pu' 'e' Har 'eSSIm. mut chu' jonDI' tlhIngan 'oy'Daqmey, 
HoHmeH mIwmey lI' je SammeH nuDqu'ba'.

> > Daqvam qIpmeH ro' yIlo'. naDev qaq toch let. naDev
> > pe'vIl pach ghop yIlo'. DaqIpchu'chugh 'oy'mo' tlhoS vanglaHbe' ghol.
>
>loQ mumISmoHpu' mu'tlheghmeyvam. lujatlhlu' 'e' luDa, 'ach lujatlhlu'
>net 'angbe'. chaq QaH "italics".

bIlugh. yabwIjDaq Italics tu'lu'law' loQ vIchoH:

jatlh 'eSSIm 'aghtaHvIS, "Daqvam DaqIpmeH ro' yIlo'. naDev qaq toch 
let. naDevpe'vIl pach ghop yIlo'. DaqIpchu'chugh 'oy'mo' tlhoS 
vanglaHbe' ghol."

> > tlhIngan 'oy' DaqmeyDaq QeqlaHDI' Mahoun, mI'choH 'eSSIm 'ej mIwmeyDaj
> > qeqtaHvIS qIptaH Mahoun 'e' ra'. roD jun 'eSSIm pagh bot 'ej pe'vIl
> > qIpbe'mo' Mahoun 'oy'qu'be' 'ach 'oy'DI' 'oy' tIv. 'oy' qotlh.
>
>tlhoS Mahoun vuvHa'pu'mo' bIj'eghnISlaw'.

bIval.

> > 'oy'
> > pIHbe'bogh SIQmeH, mInDu' SoQmoH. qaStaHvIS Hogh wuQtaH 'eSSIm 'e' tIvbe'
> > 'ach pay' DuQDI' 'oy' 'ej 'oy' SIQlaHchu'DI' rachmoH. bong wa'logh Mahoun
> > qIpDI' jach Mahoun. SIbI' mev 'eSSIm 'ej mInDu' poSmoH. DoHpu' Mahoun 'ach
> > SIbI' jatlh "jIrIQbe'. let nachwIj."
>
>maj. buDchoH Mahoun net tungnIS.
>
> > HIvqa'DI' Mahoun, 'eSSIm QamHa'moH
> > 'oy'. SuvwI' ghaHchugh Mahoun, ngugh pummoHlaHpu' 'ach ngaD'eghmoH 'e' loS
> > Mahoun.
>
>It always distracts me a little when perfective aspect seems to be
>wanting to express subjunctive mood. I would rather not quietly accept
>it as proper Klingon grammar, and I will probably comment on it every
>time I notice it.

Seng vIghov 'ach vItI'laHbe'. subjunctive vIjunqu'qangbe'.

> > yelwIyyItngan yIn poH Sovbe' 'eSSIm 'ach wej qan maHun 'e' noH.
>
>(maHun pong vImaSchoH.)

When I make notes for myself I spell it that way and have to change 
them back in Yelwitian chapters.

- Qov





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