[Tlhingan-hol] how to use {nej}?

Rohan Fenwick - QeS 'utlh qeslagh at hotmail.com
Mon Nov 28 06:37:11 PST 2011


ghItlhpu' De'vID, jatlh: 
> How would I say, "Search for the targ in the forest", or "Search for 
> the record in the data banks"?  I presume the thing being searched for 
> ({targh}, {ta}) is the object of {nej}, but how do I indicate the 
> parameters of/restrictions on the search ({ngem}, {qawHaq})? 
 
jIjang, jIjatlh:
> Do you have a specific issue with {ngemDaq targh yInej} or {qawHaqDaq 
> ta yInej}? 

mujang De'vID, jatlh:
> I have no problem accepting {ngemDaq targh yInej}, but I wasn't sure  
> about {qawHaqDaq}, or things like {tetlhDaq}, {memDaq}, {tameyDaq},  
> etc.  If the parameters of the search is not a physical location, is  
> {-Daq} still the right suffix to use? 

I'd say so. Qov recently reminded me of the proverb {wa' Dol nIvDaq
matay'DI' maQap} (from TKW), which uses {-Daq} in a rather abstract
sense that's not necessarily physical.

taH:
> Also, what if I want to leave the search target unspecified?  e.g.,  
> "Search (in) the forest", "Search (in) the data banks"? 

You can just use the no-object prefixes for that: {ngemDaq yInej} and
{qawHaqDaq yInej}. (Or {penej}, of course.)

> Actually, "Search (the) database" was the idea I originally wanted to  
> express, and I first wrote down {qawHaqDaq nej}, but then it seemed  
> wrong to me when I looked at it. 

Perfectly fine, I think. I wouldn't've given it a second glance.

QeS 'utlh
 		 	   		  


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