[Tlhingan-hol] Eurotalk - New Specialism - Time

André Müller esperantist at gmail.com
Tue Nov 8 10:19:26 PST 2011


There's another possibility.
We count days in two independent systems: days, months, years on the one
side, days of the week on the other. So the first day of the year isn't
always a Monday (or Sunday, for some). The Mayas had a similar calendar
system with two (or even three) independent counting systems.

So it might be similar for Klingon:
A new day starts at dawn, but the time is still counted from the midnight
on. That also coincides with my sense of time: even at 3 o'clock in the
morning, I'd still say it's not the new day, yet, because for my inner
clock the new day starts when I get up... or maybe when the sun goes up.
Maybe that's what David meant.

Greetings,
- André



2011/11/7 Noah Bogart <nbtheduke at gmail.com>

> What happened to Klingon time being counted from dawn-to-dawn? Is this
> just the Klingon time-keeping words being transposed 6 hours earlier than
> they normally run, or is it now a retcon, or do they actually have a
> totally different system of counting time and what we have here is a
> translation of human time?
>
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Philip Newton <philip.newton at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 00:34, Adm qe'San <qeSan at btinternet.com> wrote:
>> > Five past five (5:05)a.m. -     vaghvatlh vagh rep
>> > 5:05 p.m. (17:05) -     wa'maH Sochvatlh vagh rep
>>
>> On the original CD, the Latin script text had a different wording:
>> {vagh pagh vagh rep}. Presumably, this is an earlier (and not canon)
>> version. The sound file and the pIqaD agree with the newer-style
>> wording.
>>
>> Other spelling differences include:
>>
>> * consistent space before {vatlh}, e.g. *{wa' vatlh rep} "1:00"
>> * consistent lack of {vatlh} if minutes are mentioned, e.g. *{wa'
>> wa'maH vagh rep} "1:15". (With {pagh} inserted if the minutes are less
>> than ten.)
>>
>> > I separated the vatlh from the wa'maH to show that it is a
>> > specialized usage of vatlh (wa'maHvatlh can't be a normal Klingon
>> number). I
>> > left it attached to Hutvatlh and so on because they happen to be regular
>> > Klingon numbers anyway.
>>
>> Ah, that explains that! I had been wondering about {wa'maH vatlh} and
>> {cha'maH vatlh}.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Philip
>> --
>> Philip Newton <philip.newton at gmail.com>
>>
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